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Closed Circuit Selling : Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market

Closed Circuit Selling : Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market

Higher Education

Sydney , New South Wales 62 followers

The next evolution after Predictable Revenue - a modern Revenue Architecture for Sales, Marketing and CS.

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Outbound has collapsed. GTM teams are disconnected. Predictable Revenue no longer works the way it used to. Buyers ignore volume-based outbound. Teams operate from disconnected systems. Intelligence dies every time Sales, Marketing and CS hand off a customer. AI has blurred the lines. Every framework can be copied. Every tactic can be automated. The thing missing isn’t another methodology. It’s the architecture that makes your entire revenue system work. Closed Circuit Selling rebuilds that architecture. It gives teams a way to move in rhythm with the buyer, share intelligence across the circuit, and turn expertise into predictable pipeline again. This isn’t a new methodology. It’s the system underneath all of them. The Wiring Behind Predictable Revenue in the Unpredictable Era The architecture that supports modern GTM execution Why most outbound fails - and how to fix the root cause The four pillars that create alignment across Sales, Marketing and CS How methodologies like SPIN, Challenger and MEDDIC become powerful again when installed inside a closed circuit How cataloguing restores flow, rhythm and shared intelligence The 24-year journey that led to Closed Circuit Selling

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Higher Education
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2-10 employees
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Sydney , New South Wales
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Privately Held
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2025

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  • Closed Circuit Selling : Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market reposted this

    So many founders never get to the point of mastering revenue & sales. Mostly because their idea of sales is to cold pitch the first time the opportunity arises… (lol). The best people in the business are out here giving value first (and giving out their books for free 😎). They are relationship led from day one and sometimes don’t even realise this is actually an entire world of frameworks now (shoutout to all my fellow intuition led founders). But intuition only gets you so far. Being intentional about relationships and market timing/signals is one of the best things you could learn. Shoutout to Adem Manderovic who I met for coffee this week. One hell of a story. A true master mind 🔥 highly recommend! Tag someone who is great with people and should read this👇

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    📚 Never Stop Learning. Never Stop Growing. One thing I've learnt throughout my career is that the most successful people are never the ones who think they know it all. They're the ones who stay curious, ask questions, seek new perspectives, and continuously invest in their own development. Whether it's listening to a podcast, reading a book, attending a webinar, or learning from colleagues and mentors, every piece of knowledge adds another tool to your toolbox. As a Sales Development Executive at Kester James, continuous learning is a huge part of what we do. Every conversation teaches us something new about an industry, a business challenge, or the people we're speaking with. The more we learn, the better equipped we are to create meaningful conversations and connect our clients with genuine opportunities. This week I've been spending some time with Closed Circuit Selling™ (CCS), taking in new ideas and challenging my thinking around sales and revenue generation. The best investment you can make is often the one you make in yourself. Knowledge compounds over time. Read the book. Listen to the podcast. Ask the question. Take the course. You never know which lesson will be the one that changes everything. Are you reading a good book at the moment? What is it called? #Learning #ProfessionalDevelopment #SalesDevelopment #SDR #B2BSales #ContinuousImprovement #KesterJames #SalesGrowth #Leadership #BusinessDevelopment

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  • Closed Circuit Selling : Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market reposted this

    Considering RevOps as a career, but unsure? 👇 This is my take 👇 Over the last 6 months, a few people DM'd me asking what's the day-to-day of a RevOps function. This depends on industry, size of company and existing teams: - A plumbing business of 50 people, won't have a data team. RevOps will own most conversion data, reporting and forecasting (in close alignment with Finance). A company this size may utilise Marketing agencies for lead gen, limiting the customer signals captured before leads land on the CRM. - A Saas of 500 people will have a Data team and the CRM may not be the SoT (Source of Truth) for conversions. RevOps will be working with Data to ensure consistency of figures and measurements across systems and the use of data warehousing. RevOps will help the in-house Marketing team in identifying intent-signals before prospects become leads to re-distribute budget and improve performance. So day-to-day may change. But – if you want to know what the qualities are key for RevOps, these are what I consider NON-NEGOTIABLES. 1.   You need to love Sales and Sales teams. If you don't, it’s not the right role. Full stop. 2.   You need to love Marketing, human behaviour and be eager to identify new opportunities. 3.   You need to get excited about processes and data. 4.   You need to be comfortable saying ‘No’ when teams ask for exceptions to processes that affect data integrity. (This will happen every-single-week). 5.   You need to be flexible and say ‘Yes’ to changing your own processes when they don't serve teams. 6.   Know that your opinion is not data. It's most likely a wrong assumption that needs to be tested. 7.   You need to stop asking ‘What’s the perfect solution?’ and instead ask ‘How will this fail?’ (Thanks, Grace Miller) Then be relentless about testing before-during-and-after rollout. 8. It’s ok to go fast, and break stuff. But don’t go fast and break your own stuff. (I see this often). 9. You need to get excited about dry things your 8-year old would yawn at. (Hello, ‘governance frameworks’ and ‘process maps’.) 10. You need to get excited about working with people vertically and horizontally. RevOps is a function that serves other teams… you need to enjoy this. 11. You need to be passionate about training, enablement and knowledge transfers. 12. Most importantly, you need to love serving customers. The biggest hack to this is working for a company with a product you love/respect. This will attract people you are happy to serve. RevOps is the most exciting mix of hard and soft skills I’ve found in Sales, CS and Marketing. That's what I love most. For those, considering this career - an easy first step is to do the HubSpot Academy RevOps Certification. It’s Free. It’s high quality. And it will answer lots of questions. Are you in RevOps? What would you add? Considering RevOps? What do you want to know?

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  • Closed Circuit Selling : Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market reposted this

    I recently said publicly The race will be a provider to record, facilitate and update the guard rails of Closed Circuit Selling™ (CCS) to gather commercial account intelligence, to disperse across Marketing, Product, Sales, Customer Success & Leadership. And today’s discussions with Mark Taoube & George Coudounaris energised that exact thinking…. Stay tuned….

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    This is simply due to modern day activity theatre does not mean catalogued account intelligence with buying timelines. Pipeline is often hope disguised as certainty. But activity can be just as dangerous when it becomes volume disguised as progress. More calls. More meetings. More emails. More discovery. More opportunities. Yet somehow the outcome never changes. Why? Because neither metric answers the most important question: Are we learning anything about the market? This is where most forecasting models break down. The account isn’t catalogued. The buying environment isn’t catalogued. The stakeholder network isn’t catalogued. The timing event isn’t catalogued. The business case isn’t catalogued. The competitive position isn’t catalogued. So the organisation ends up forecasting against assumptions. What Closed Circuit Selling™ found across multiple industries is that most pipelines are built on what I call commercial fugazi. Deals exist in CRM. Stages exist in CRM. Activities exist in CRM. But the intelligence required to validate those opportunities often doesn’t exist anywhere. The organisation is measuring motion instead of understanding. The result? Pipeline bloat. Forecast inflation. False commit dates. Late-stage surprises. Quarter-end panic. Not because people are dishonest. Because the system lacks validated market intelligence. This is why Closed Circuit Selling™ starts somewhere completely different. Before pipeline. Before forecasting. Before activity metrics. Before opportunity stages. It starts with cataloguing. Cataloguing the market. Cataloguing the accounts. Cataloguing buying behaviour. Cataloguing timing events. Cataloguing stakeholder ecosystems. Cataloguing competitive intelligence. Cataloguing customer outcomes. Because once intelligence is captured and operationalised, everything else becomes more accurate. Marketing targets better accounts. Sales qualifies better opportunities. Customer Success identifies expansion earlier. Product sees market patterns sooner. Leadership forecasts with greater confidence. Suddenly pipeline is no longer built on optimism. It’s built on evidence. The future of forecasting won’t belong to organisations with more dashboards. It will belong to organisations with stronger commercial intelligence architecture. Because forecasting isn’t really a sales problem. It’s an organisational learning problem. And organisational learning is ultimately what Closed Circuit Selling™ was designed to solve. Not by managing pipeline. Not by managing activity. But by creating a closed circuit where market intelligence continuously flows through Marketing, Product, Sales, Customer Success, Leadership, and Strategy. The organisations that learn fastest will forecast best. Because they are no longer predicting the market. They’re listening to it. Closed Circuit Selling : Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market

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    Your pipeline says you'll hit the number. Three to six months later it collapses, and by then the miss is already locked in. I've watched this happen in sales team after sales team. The pipeline looks healthy in the board pack. Deals are "committed". Then the quarter lands and a third of it was never real. Here is the uncomfortable part: pipeline is a lagging indicator dressed up as a leading one. It tells you what people hope will close, not what they actually did to make it close. The old way: manage the pipeline. Ask for updates. Push on the deals at the bottom of the funnel. Watch the forecast move and pretend that is steering. The new way: manage the activities that create the pipeline. How many real discovery conversations happened this month, per rep, against what that rep actually needs to hit their own target. That is a leading indicator. You can act on it while there is still time. If you run a sales team of 50 or more in a production business, you already steer the factory floor this way. You see each step, you see where it slows, you fix it before the output drops. Sales deserves the same. The good news: the activity data mostly already sits in your CRM. The hard part is never collecting it. It is turning it into a per rep, leading indicator view you can actually steer on every month. We help sales leaders make the funnel visible stage by stage, so the forecast is built on activity, not on optimism. Pipeline or activity: which one are you actually managing today? #B2BSales #SalesLeadership #Forecasting

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    For years, the GTM world has argued about Sales-led. Marketing-led. Product-led. Founder-led. Partner-led. Outbound. Inbound. Demand generation. Account based marketing. But the argument itself exposes the flaw. Because none of those are strategies. They're delivery mechanisms. The real question is what does the market require and how do I move closer to it? If your entire addressable market consists of 17 organizations and 9 relevant buying stakeholders inside each one... You don't have a lead generation problem. You have an orchestration problem. Every conversation matters. Every relationship matters. Every signal matters. Every buying committee matters. Every interaction becomes a strategic asset. In that environment, a highly coordinated sales led motion supported by marketing makes complete sense. Now change the environment. Imagine hundreds of thousands of potential buyers. Small transaction values. Large market volume. Low individual account importance. The architecture changes. Marketing takes the lead. Awareness becomes critical. Attraction becomes critical. Content becomes critical. Distribution becomes critical. But the part the market has completely overlooked, is the circuit itself, should not change. And this is where most GTM frameworks break. They prescribe a methodology before understanding the market. They start with tactics. Closed Circuit Selling™ starts with architecture. The question should always be, what is the market saying... Once you understand • Market size • Market density • Account value • Buying complexity • Number of stakeholders • Buying timelines • Commercial risk • Decision velocity There is no scenario where knowing more is worse. There is no scenario where understanding buyer timelines is a disadvantage. There is no scenario where understanding what must happen before a purchase occurs is a disadvantage. There is no scenario where marketing should know less. There is no scenario where sales should know less. There is no scenario where customer success should know less. There is no scenario where product should know less. There is no scenario where leadership should know less. Yet most organizations are structured around exactly that outcome. Information gets trapped. Signals die. Knowledge disappears. Teams optimize locally. The company suffers globally. Closed Circuit Selling™ was built on first principles. Every commercial interaction should make the entire system smarter. If sales learns something, marketing should benefit. If customer success learns something, product should benefit. If product learns something, leadership should benefit. If leadership learns something, execution should improve. Not eventually. Immediately. Because revenue is not created by isolated departments. Revenue is created by the quality of information flowing between them. The future of GTM is not sales led. It is not marketing led. It is not product led. It is market led and architecturally aligned.

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    Just about everybody I knew thought I was insane for leaving Private Equity and Wall Street. At one point I was responsible for a residential whole loan mortgage book with over $5B in face value. Not the homes — the paper. If you've seen The Big Short, my job was the part the movie didn't bother showing... I was a Transaction Manager on the whole loans desk at Hudson Advisors -the captive asset manager for Lone Star Funds, which has acquired north of $20B in U.S. residential mortgage paper over the last decade. We bought badly distressed non-performing loans at deep discounts, worked them back toward re-performing with our servicer, then sold them out to institutional buyers who'd either securitize them or hold them under a side letter and a repurchase agreement. The desk taught me one lesson, on repeat: There are consequences to systems engineered to defer responsibility. The originator wrote the loan and walked. The packager bundled it and walked. The bank sold the bonds and walked. By the time the paper hit my desk, everyone who'd been paid for touching it was long gone - and the homeowner was holding the bag. I assumed when I left finance I was leaving that pattern behind. Nope. When mortgage originations went off a cliff during COVID, I made a bet that sounded crazy at the time and obvious to me: The most recession-proof skill on earth is the one nobody wants to do. So I picked up the phone. What I quickly learned was the same systematic deferment of responsibility: Marketing graded on lead quantity. BDRs graded on meetings booked. The AE on deals closed. The CSM inheriting accounts that should never have been sold. The VC reverse-engineering the topline from the exit multiple they need to clear - and the customer, nominally the cornerstone of the whole thing, last in line holding the bag. I got lucky. The mentors who trained me ran a shop that measured completed conversations, not meetings (thanks Justin Middleton Ryan 🏋️☎️ Reisert Joey Gilkey So I called people. I actually talked to them. The point was to be useful to the prospect - not to validate some MBA's Excel skills. The real alpha isn't found by climbing the same ladder everyone else is climbing. It's found at the seams between industries -when somebody walks an idea out of one sector into another that's never seen it. The thing you think you "lack" is almost always the basis for the value only you can bring. The mortgage guy who walks into a sales org sees structural rot the lifers stopped noticing twenty years ago. The poker player who walks into trading sees variance where everyone else sees winners and losers. The angle nobody else has is yours by default. Stop trying to round it off. Always a pleasure chopping it up with Adem Manderovic and George Coudounaris

    One of the reasons Closed Circuit Selling™ (CCS) feels simultaneously “obvious” and “revolutionary” to certain operators is because many of them were trained in systems before they were trained in SaaS. I said what I said. And what Charles Needham articulates here is one of the clearest examples I’ve seen of that phenomenon. He didn’t come from the stereotypical “sales personality” background. No lemonade stand. No childhood hustler mythology. No glorified activity obsession. He came from economics and structured finance. Which meant he was trained very early to think in: systems relational databases probability mapping interconnected variables portfolio behavior signal analysis and compounding informational value he was trained to think architecturally. So when he entered modern outbound sales, something immediately felt broken. Because to him, the logic was obvious, if certain customer conditions increase the probability of a successful commercial outcome… …why wouldn’t you systematically catalogue those conditions? Why wouldn’t you document timing? track operational maturity? map relationship pathways? understand contract cycles? capture stakeholder movement? identify buying conditions? preserve market intelligence longitudinally? To Charles, that was intuitive. Because that is how every serious system operates. But what he discovered inside large parts of modern SaaS was something very different. Entire teams optimizing for meetings booked arbitrary activity targets stage movement optics synthetic pipeline inflation Even when the underlying commercial conditions were weak. And this is exactly the fracture Closed Circuit Selling™ exposes. That high activity automatically equals high commercial viability. Historically, mature operators understood something different. And it explains why many operators who came from finance recruitment field sales enterprise account management logistics operational consulting relationship-driven industries …often immediately understand CCS™ once exposed to it. Because they have already lived inside environments where timing mattered suitability mattered serviceability mattered long-term outcomes mattered and information integrity mattered Which is why Charles’ observation becomes so important He was never trying to “book meetings.” He was trying to understand conditions. And once you understand conditions, the entire sales philosophy changes. You stop treating every buyer identically. You stop forcing urgency where none exists. You stop collapsing timing into arbitrary quarter end pressure. Instead you facilitate awareness, catalogue intelligence, track progression, and re engage differently depending on where the buyer exists within the decision environment. That is not merely “better sales.” That is commercial systems architecture.

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    A fantastic Sunday read. I've been meaning to post this for a while but Closed Circuit Selling : Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market from Adem Manderovic and George Coudounaris is a breath of fresh air. Being in Demand Gen and Ops for over 17 years I've seen a lot come and go in terms of strategies. What worked then, doesn't always work now. The expectation that more meetings, more lead(z) and ultimately more activity is a panacea has been proven false. So what's next? Well that's why you have to read the book ;) I can tell you that the fundamentals discussed in this book, such as cataloguing the market, can be applied as the foundation to a lot of the modern "plays" your timeline is flooded with. And that foundation is where the architecture really comes into play. Really enjoyed this one and think you will to.

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    Most Customer Success teams are measured on retention. But retention can “lie”. You can retain the wrong customers, renew accounts that were never a fit and grow revenue that was fragile from day one. Reading *Closed Circuit Selling* by Adem Manderovic and George Coudounaris trains you to rethink what efficiency looks like in ANY revenue driving role and connects them all together to work harmoniously. Most of you know I’ve recently taken over more responsibility to ensure our clients’ businesses flourish…and here’s how Adem and George’s book helps to make that less about post sale white gloving and more about being part of a cohesive revenue sustaining system. → Don’t just track health … track *why customers actually succeed or fail* Every onboarding, renewal, or churn tells a story. Patterns matter more than one-off wins. → Look for “false positives” Customers who closed… but shouldn’t have. That insight is more valuable than any upsell. → Turn customer reality into pre-sale truth. The friction, the objections, the gaps … those shouldn’t be hidden. They should shape how you sell/upsell and how you scale/grow your client’s business. → Treat expansion as a signal, not a target. ***If value isn’t already realized*** pushing growth just ***creates future churn*** 👆🏻Read that one again..HUGE for a CS and AM role. → Feed everything back upstream. (Sales), (Marketing), (CS) … if we’re not learning from the same source of truth, we’re just guessing into a high risk low reward void. And we certainly aren’t helping to support our client’s business. Something you CS folks can take with you for the start to the week.. Customer Success isn’t just about keeping customers. It’s about **protecting the system** from bad revenue and ((reinforcing what actually works)). HUGE shout-outs to Adem and George for putting language to something a lot of teams feel but struggle to operationalize or even put to words. If you haven’t picked up their masterclass Closed Circuit Selling : Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market You should.. —and you’re welcome. 💪🏻

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    I don’t align with many operators in market. Most are still optimising tactics inside broken systems. But when I spent time with Nickolas Sternberg-Heyze The xDR Coach , it hit a little different. Revenue growth is not a talent problem. It is an infrastructure failure. Nickolas calls it the “Variance Tax” the silent killer of revenue performance, where inconsistency across people, process, and execution erodes what should be predictable yield. I call it system leakage inside misaligned revenue circuits. Same truth. Different language. And unlike most, he’s built this from inside real operating environments, not theory. At Smartsheet, he scaled enterprise motion across APJ, driving an 87% YoY increase in ASP. At LegalVision, he re-architected the system cutting the sales cycle from 14 days to 7, while increasing attainment by 49%. That doesn’t happen from better reps. That happens from better systems. Here’s where most revenue leaders are still getting it wrong You’re Managing People Instead of Designing Systems If your top performers are carrying your number, you don’t have a high-performing team. You have a fragile system. Nickolas eliminates reliance on “hero sellers” by implementing clinical operating systems where execution is consistent, measurable, and transferable. You’re Scaling Activity Instead of Increasing Signal Fidelity More calls. More emails. More tools. None of it matters if your qualification, decisioning, and progression logic is flawed. This is where his MEDDPICC depth and AI-forensics thinking becomes critical, not as frameworks, but as signal validation layers inside the revenue architecture. You Don’t Have Alignment, You Have Handoffs Most organisations think alignment is communication. It’s not. Alignment is shared system logic across Marketing, Sales, and Customer Success where every stage feeds the next with clean, usable intelligence. Without that, friction compounds. Conversion drops. Forecasts lie. Nickolas is doing what very few in market are willing to do Moving teams from instinct → protocol From variance → control From effort → engineered yield Through “The xDR Coach: Revenue Foundations (Vol 1)”, he’s codifying this into a repeatable system for teams that are serious about predictable growth. And here’s the reality most won’t say out loud If your pipeline is inconsistent… If your ASP is volatile… If your cycle length depends on the rep… You don’t have a performance problem. You have an architecture problem. Category leaders don’t optimise sales. They design systems where revenue becomes inevitable. #B2B #XDR #ClosedCircuitSelling #RevenueAlignmentArchitecture

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